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Hi8 to DVD?
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JTWadsworth
2006-11-22 05:01:12 UTC
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Newbie here.

I have about 12 Hi8 tapes from a SONY DCR-TRV120 NTSC that I would
like to change over to DVD. I just bought a new SONY HDR-SR1 and am
going 100% tapeless.

My hardware:

4GB RAM
WinXP
3.46Ghz P4
150GB HDD
GeForce 7800GT vidcard.

Anyone mind walking me through or pointing me in the right direction
on how to move over the video from the Hi8 tapes to the computer for
DVD burning? Thanks!

JTWadsworth
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JTWadsworth
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Vince
2006-11-22 05:29:17 UTC
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Use google. It is so simple. :)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hi8+to+dvd
Post by JTWadsworth
Newbie here.
I have about 12 Hi8 tapes from a SONY DCR-TRV120 NTSC that I would
like to change over to DVD. I just bought a new SONY HDR-SR1 and am
going 100% tapeless.
4GB RAM
WinXP
3.46Ghz P4
150GB HDD
GeForce 7800GT vidcard.
Anyone mind walking me through or pointing me in the right direction
on how to move over the video from the Hi8 tapes to the computer for
DVD burning? Thanks!
JTWadsworth
JTWadsworth
Zebra
2006-11-23 14:53:30 UTC
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To convert Hi-8 to DVD, you can use one of the following methods:

1) Use a stand alone DVD recorder with or without hard disk. Just connect
the AV cables from your DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to the DVD recorder, then
follow their menus to prepare DVD. -- This had nothing to do with
computering and maybe the least time consuming method.

2)Check and see if Sony HDR-SR1 could record AV signals. If possible, you
can connect DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to HDR-SR1 and transfer the video(s).
After that, you can disconnect DCR-TRV120 and connect HDR-SR1 to your
computer via USB 2.0. Then you can edit and burn DVD using the bundled
software (I guess Sony HDR-SR1 bundled this) or other video editing software
like VideoStudio, PowerDirector ...etc. -- This maybe the cheapest method
since you don't need to buy anything extra (assuming you already got a DVD
writer in your computer).

3) You can purchase a video caputering hardware for your computer. Both
external or internal will do ( I think the forum can give you some good tips
on which brand and model to use). After setting it up, you can connect
DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to your computer prepare DVD using the bundled
software.

Finally, computer editing is time consuming as it takes time to render the
video before burning DVD. My Athlon64 3000+, 2G ram, 120G Hard Disk x2 with
a pinnacle Studio 8 video capturing device took 2.5 - 3 hrs to convert an 1
hr DV to DVD after editing.
Post by Vince
Use google. It is so simple. :)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hi8+to+dvd
Post by JTWadsworth
Newbie here.
I have about 12 Hi8 tapes from a SONY DCR-TRV120 NTSC that I would
like to change over to DVD. I just bought a new SONY HDR-SR1 and am
going 100% tapeless.
4GB RAM
WinXP
3.46Ghz P4
150GB HDD
GeForce 7800GT vidcard.
Anyone mind walking me through or pointing me in the right direction
on how to move over the video from the Hi8 tapes to the computer for
DVD burning? Thanks!
JTWadsworth
JTWadsworth
JTWadsworth
2006-11-23 16:28:05 UTC
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Post by Zebra
1) Use a stand alone DVD recorder with or without hard disk. Just connect
the AV cables from your DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to the DVD recorder, then
follow their menus to prepare DVD. -- This had nothing to do with
computering and maybe the least time consuming method.
2)Check and see if Sony HDR-SR1 could record AV signals. If possible, you
can connect DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to HDR-SR1 and transfer the video(s).
After that, you can disconnect DCR-TRV120 and connect HDR-SR1 to your
computer via USB 2.0. Then you can edit and burn DVD using the bundled
software (I guess Sony HDR-SR1 bundled this) or other video editing software
like VideoStudio, PowerDirector ...etc. -- This maybe the cheapest method
since you don't need to buy anything extra (assuming you already got a DVD
writer in your computer).
3) You can purchase a video caputering hardware for your computer. Both
external or internal will do ( I think the forum can give you some good tips
on which brand and model to use). After setting it up, you can connect
DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder to your computer prepare DVD using the bundled
software.
Finally, computer editing is time consuming as it takes time to render the
video before burning DVD. My Athlon64 3000+, 2G ram, 120G Hard Disk x2 with
a pinnacle Studio 8 video capturing device took 2.5 - 3 hrs to convert an 1
hr DV to DVD after editing.
Post by Vince
Use google. It is so simple. :)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hi8+to+dvd
Post by JTWadsworth
Newbie here.
I have about 12 Hi8 tapes from a SONY DCR-TRV120 NTSC that I would
like to change over to DVD. I just bought a new SONY HDR-SR1 and am
going 100% tapeless.
4GB RAM
WinXP
3.46Ghz P4
150GB HDD
GeForce 7800GT vidcard.
Anyone mind walking me through or pointing me in the right direction
on how to move over the video from the Hi8 tapes to the computer for
DVD burning? Thanks!
JTWadsworth
JTWadsworth
Thanks for the response!

The DCR-TRV120 Hi8 camcorder has a firewire (mini) DV out that I can
connect to my laptop that has the firewire (mini) DV in. It then
sends the video just fine as you mentioned it would above. The SR1
seems only to have a USB2.0 connection but I assume it would work the
same.

Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.

jtw
JTWadsworth
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Vince
2006-11-23 23:22:44 UTC
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Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
I would recommend you avid mojo with avid liquid.
Vince
2006-11-23 23:31:43 UTC
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Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,

http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/

I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple to
operate as well. :)
Zebra
2006-11-24 11:20:23 UTC
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Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
JTWadsworth
2006-11-24 16:12:59 UTC
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Post by Zebra
Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
But what settings to use ? It is very confusing as to all the codecs
and settings etc. I just want to bring it over 1:1 from the camera to
the hard drive and then downcode it from there if I want later.

jtw
JTWadsworth
***@nospamyahoo.com
Zebra
2006-11-25 06:03:39 UTC
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I tried downloaded Nero 7 Premium (Trail), however Nero Vision hangs when
starting -- possibly not supporting my capture device. I checked my Studio
10 settings for capturing. It has FULL DV, DVD,VCD...etc. with a
corresponding time for storing captured videos -- Full DV is the most space
consuming. I think you can setup Nero Vision using codecs better than DVD.

Maybe anyone also using Nero 7 Premium can help?
Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
But what settings to use ? It is very confusing as to all the codecs
and settings etc. I just want to bring it over 1:1 from the camera to
the hard drive and then downcode it from there if I want later.
jtw
JTWadsworth
JTWadsworth
2006-11-25 08:00:52 UTC
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Post by Zebra
I tried downloaded Nero 7 Premium (Trail), however Nero Vision hangs when
starting -- possibly not supporting my capture device. I checked my Studio
10 settings for capturing. It has FULL DV, DVD,VCD...etc. with a
corresponding time for storing captured videos -- Full DV is the most space
consuming. I think you can setup Nero Vision using codecs better than DVD.
Maybe anyone also using Nero 7 Premium can help?
Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
But what settings to use ? It is very confusing as to all the codecs
and settings etc. I just want to bring it over 1:1 from the camera to
the hard drive and then downcode it from there if I want later.
jtw
JTWadsworth
After reading lots online I did the following:

I transferred the DV with WinDV to the HDD. Note that the 1hr tape is
only 13GB whereas using uncompressed AVI options with Nero, it is
44GB. I thought WinDV was a simple data stream but why would it then
be so much smaller than the Nero one?

jtw
JTWadsworth
***@nospamyahoo.com
AnthonyR
2006-11-25 15:02:57 UTC
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Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
I tried downloaded Nero 7 Premium (Trail), however Nero Vision hangs when
starting -- possibly not supporting my capture device. I checked my Studio
10 settings for capturing. It has FULL DV, DVD,VCD...etc. with a
corresponding time for storing captured videos -- Full DV is the most space
consuming. I think you can setup Nero Vision using codecs better than DVD.
Maybe anyone also using Nero 7 Premium can help?
Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
But what settings to use ? It is very confusing as to all the codecs
and settings etc. I just want to bring it over 1:1 from the camera to
the hard drive and then downcode it from there if I want later.
jtw
JTWadsworth
I transferred the DV with WinDV to the HDD. Note that the 1hr tape is
only 13GB whereas using uncompressed AVI options with Nero, it is
44GB. I thought WinDV was a simple data stream but why would it then
be so much smaller than the Nero one?
jtw
JTWadsworth
Well DV-AVI the format that is in camcorders is actually compressed at 5 to
1 ratio, so that's why it takes up about 13gb per hour.
true uncompressed video will take up much more probably around that nero
number you got.
And MPEG-2 which DVD's are compressed to run at about 50 to 1 compression, I
believe but that is adjustable
AnthonyR.
JTWadsworth
2006-11-25 17:08:56 UTC
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Post by AnthonyR
Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
I tried downloaded Nero 7 Premium (Trail), however Nero Vision hangs when
starting -- possibly not supporting my capture device. I checked my Studio
10 settings for capturing. It has FULL DV, DVD,VCD...etc. with a
corresponding time for storing captured videos -- Full DV is the most space
consuming. I think you can setup Nero Vision using codecs better than DVD.
Maybe anyone also using Nero 7 Premium can help?
Post by JTWadsworth
Post by Zebra
Avid liquid does looks good, it is more powerful than my Studio8 (already
upgrade to Studio 10). Nero 7 premium suite contains a Nero Vision which
also seems to do the job for you. I would suggest you try Nero first as
editing is not your priorty and you already owns it.
Post by Vince
Post by JTWadsworth
Can you please recommend a good software program for me to use to do
this ? My goal is more archiving the movies rather than editing and
polishing them up, but I would like the quality to be the highest
possible. I have Nero 7 Premium Suite and of course M$ moviemaker. My
goal is simply to pull the movies off of the tapes and then save the
files on an external HDD as well as burn them to DVD with the highest
quality possible.
Here's the link, there's avid liquid with that new I/O device, not mojo,
http://www.avid.com/products/liquidpro/
I think with this you'll get the best quality possible. And it is simple
to operate as well. :)
But what settings to use ? It is very confusing as to all the codecs
and settings etc. I just want to bring it over 1:1 from the camera to
the hard drive and then downcode it from there if I want later.
jtw
JTWadsworth
I transferred the DV with WinDV to the HDD. Note that the 1hr tape is
only 13GB whereas using uncompressed AVI options with Nero, it is
44GB. I thought WinDV was a simple data stream but why would it then
be so much smaller than the Nero one?
jtw
JTWadsworth
Well DV-AVI the format that is in camcorders is actually compressed at 5 to
1 ratio, so that's why it takes up about 13gb per hour.
true uncompressed video will take up much more probably around that nero
number you got.
And MPEG-2 which DVD's are compressed to run at about 50 to 1 compression, I
believe but that is adjustable
AnthonyR.
Confusing...since DV from WinDV I thought was a true bitstream and not
compressed...Nero uncompressed at 44GB was a better picture and WinDV
has no settings for changing that "compression." 44GB is too large to
archive though so I guess I stick with the 13GB/hr ratio.

jtw
JTWadsworth
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AnthonyR
2006-11-26 01:51:50 UTC
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Post by JTWadsworth
Confusing...since DV from WinDV I thought was a true bitstream and not
compressed...Nero uncompressed at 44GB was a better picture and WinDV
has no settings for changing that "compression." 44GB is too large to
archive though so I guess I stick with the 13GB/hr ratio.
jtw
JTWadsworth
Yeah, I agree, plus when you capture video, it's at DV-AVI (13gb/hr ratio)
and that looks great, no
need to have to archive at any higher level.

AnthonyR

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